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	<title>Comments on: PR&#8217;s own goal: Or why blogger pitching has been worse than the French national team this World Cup</title>
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		<title>By: From Joe Bloggs to Über Blogger: The Blogger Evolution : Behind the Spin</title>
		<link>http://www.garyandrews.net/2010/07/08/prs-own-goal-or-why-blogger-pitching-has-been-worse-than-the-french-national-team-this-world-cup/comment-page-1/#comment-9614</link>
		<dc:creator>From Joe Bloggs to Über Blogger: The Blogger Evolution : Behind the Spin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2010 18:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] published a blog disparaging of the shameless PR pitches he had received during the World Cup. This blog makes a useful read for those PRs who are keen to avoid making the same mistakes, and highlights [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] published a blog disparaging of the shameless PR pitches he had received during the World Cup. This blog makes a useful read for those PRs who are keen to avoid making the same mistakes, and highlights [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Blogger Outreach Sian Meades &#124; Grapevine Consulting</title>
		<link>http://www.garyandrews.net/2010/07/08/prs-own-goal-or-why-blogger-pitching-has-been-worse-than-the-french-national-team-this-world-cup/comment-page-1/#comment-6025</link>
		<dc:creator>Blogger Outreach Sian Meades &#124; Grapevine Consulting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 06:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] illustrated this more to me than seeing even Gary Andrews driven to despair last month [PR&#039;s Own Goal]. But when I talk to many PRs they simply just don&#8217;t believe how badly and how frequently [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] illustrated this more to me than seeing even Gary Andrews driven to despair last month [PR&#039;s Own Goal]. But when I talk to many PRs they simply just don&#8217;t believe how badly and how frequently [...]</p>
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		<title>By: It&#8217;s good to talk: A quick lesson for bloggers and PR &#187; Gary Andrews</title>
		<link>http://www.garyandrews.net/2010/07/08/prs-own-goal-or-why-blogger-pitching-has-been-worse-than-the-french-national-team-this-world-cup/comment-page-1/#comment-4744</link>
		<dc:creator>It&#8217;s good to talk: A quick lesson for bloggers and PR &#187; Gary Andrews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 22:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Or why blogger pitching has been worse than the French national team this World CupTom Jitred on PR&#8217;s own goal: Or why blogger pitching has been worse than the French national team this World...The RaxList for July 12th &#124; raxraxrax.com on PR&#8217;s own goal: Or why blogger pitching has been [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Siany</title>
		<link>http://www.garyandrews.net/2010/07/08/prs-own-goal-or-why-blogger-pitching-has-been-worse-than-the-french-national-team-this-world-cup/comment-page-1/#comment-4728</link>
		<dc:creator>Siany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 12:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like most jobs where you&#039;re dealing with other people, good manners are key. Something Tom doesn&#039;t seem to possess.

I like this post, because it&#039;s not about &#039;Gary the Press Office Guy&#039;, it&#039;s about Gary the Blogger. Not once does he state to know PR better than anyone else (and i don&#039;t think he ever would). Instead, he talks about his experience as a blogger - who clearly wants to have a conversation with PRs, to a) make his life easier and b) make his content better. Both of which = c) making readers more interested and more involved. Everyone wins in that scenario.

Shame Tom can&#039;t see that and resorts to snarky comments with bad grammar. He might have learned something if he&#039;d read this post properly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like most jobs where you&#8217;re dealing with other people, good manners are key. Something Tom doesn&#8217;t seem to possess.</p>
<p>I like this post, because it&#8217;s not about &#8216;Gary the Press Office Guy&#8217;, it&#8217;s about Gary the Blogger. Not once does he state to know PR better than anyone else (and i don&#8217;t think he ever would). Instead, he talks about his experience as a blogger &#8211; who clearly wants to have a conversation with PRs, to a) make his life easier and b) make his content better. Both of which = c) making readers more interested and more involved. Everyone wins in that scenario.</p>
<p>Shame Tom can&#8217;t see that and resorts to snarky comments with bad grammar. He might have learned something if he&#8217;d read this post properly.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Nee</title>
		<link>http://www.garyandrews.net/2010/07/08/prs-own-goal-or-why-blogger-pitching-has-been-worse-than-the-french-national-team-this-world-cup/comment-page-1/#comment-4720</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Nee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Tom&quot;, I really wouldn&#039;t want to be you right now.

Oh, sorry...

i really would&#039;nt want too be u right now</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Tom&#8221;, I really wouldn&#8217;t want to be you right now.</p>
<p>Oh, sorry&#8230;</p>
<p>i really would&#8217;nt want too be u right now</p>
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		<title>By: Darika</title>
		<link>http://www.garyandrews.net/2010/07/08/prs-own-goal-or-why-blogger-pitching-has-been-worse-than-the-french-national-team-this-world-cup/comment-page-1/#comment-4719</link>
		<dc:creator>Darika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erm Tom, if you&#039;re so clever you would&#039;ve looked up Gary and seen his 3 years at ITV working in the Press Office (with a Web/Social Media focus) and then Communities Assistant where they had numerous successes and won legions of blogger fans with their well pitched outreach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erm Tom, if you&#8217;re so clever you would&#8217;ve looked up Gary and seen his 3 years at ITV working in the Press Office (with a Web/Social Media focus) and then Communities Assistant where they had numerous successes and won legions of blogger fans with their well pitched outreach.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Jitred</title>
		<link>http://www.garyandrews.net/2010/07/08/prs-own-goal-or-why-blogger-pitching-has-been-worse-than-the-french-national-team-this-world-cup/comment-page-1/#comment-4624</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Jitred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 13:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is your so clever what is your opinion of good pr</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>is your so clever what is your opinion of good pr</p>
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		<title>By: The RaxList for July 12th &#124; raxraxrax.com</title>
		<link>http://www.garyandrews.net/2010/07/08/prs-own-goal-or-why-blogger-pitching-has-been-worse-than-the-french-national-team-this-world-cup/comment-page-1/#comment-4610</link>
		<dc:creator>The RaxList for July 12th &#124; raxraxrax.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 22:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kerry Gaffney</title>
		<link>http://www.garyandrews.net/2010/07/08/prs-own-goal-or-why-blogger-pitching-has-been-worse-than-the-french-national-team-this-world-cup/comment-page-1/#comment-4598</link>
		<dc:creator>Kerry Gaffney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 15:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps all bloggers should revert to only being pitched via a form. In order to fill in the form the PR in question has to answer a set of random questions, both related to the etiquette of pitching and the blog/blogger in question.

I know that this sort of captcha would only succeed in deterring the bad ones for about 2 weeks until someone offers a mechanical turk work around, but it would be great for those two weeks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps all bloggers should revert to only being pitched via a form. In order to fill in the form the PR in question has to answer a set of random questions, both related to the etiquette of pitching and the blog/blogger in question.</p>
<p>I know that this sort of captcha would only succeed in deterring the bad ones for about 2 weeks until someone offers a mechanical turk work around, but it would be great for those two weeks.</p>
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		<title>By: Darika</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 15:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Things have gotten so bad we need some sort of moratorium during which every PR makes sure they learn this stuff, every rubbish list of bloggers is deleted, and every blogger has a chance to reset and perhaps be happy to engage with PR once again in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Things have gotten so bad we need some sort of moratorium during which every PR makes sure they learn this stuff, every rubbish list of bloggers is deleted, and every blogger has a chance to reset and perhaps be happy to engage with PR once again in the future.</p>
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